BDS: Day 2 Discussion (8/3 & 8/4)

[mare]

Wow! What wonderful ARC's you've all created. Remember, these are fluid so feel free to add and delete as we go through the steps. I love that our opening thread had more than 100 posts.

Today's task is to pick an in initial diet to START ON DAY 15. You should also pick a backup diet if that one is not a great fit. The reasoning behind this is that if a diet is not working it can be easy to quit if you do not have a next plan. One might say it is only until Monday/next month/after school starts/etc but I think most of us know that time can just keep going and going.

Beck is agnostic about what diet you pick so long as it is nutritious and contains food that is appealing to you. The key here is starting something sustainable and losing the on/off mentality. So if pasta/bread/beer are faves, do not go low carb. Restriction is possible but only for a limited time and then often followed by a rebound that may land oneself at a higher weight then before. Or as Ann Lamott's therapist said

Another thing to consider is whether in the past you have been more successful with plans that restrict quantity (WW) or quality (SBD). Also, one's plan needs to have room for the indulgences of your choosing (sweets, alcohol, fried foods, etc.)

Feel free to post your picks here as well as any additional insights from reading your ARC. We'll hit day 3 on Friday!

[Byrd]

Hi Mare and everybody else.
I've lost 25+ pounds with MFP (calorie counting) with a lot of help from Beck and the threads Mare has led. Mostly as a lurker.
At this point I have about 10-15 pounds to lose, I've been maintaining for a good 7 months. MFP is now telling me I need to eat 1220 calories per day, which is hard! I feel like it's too few. My second diet was simply filling but I don't want to cut out whole food groups.
It's my plan is to stick with MFP but any advice is welcome!
Thank you again and again!

[meeshers]

I will be following the old WW plan, winning points I think. The one that capped fiber at 4. That's how I lost my weight, and only while pregnant did I gain my weight back and then some.

I lost 60 pounds originally, but I found that loss difficult to maintain. 5-10 pounds higher than that was much easier to live with, and I like living! I'm about 20 pounds above that mark now. I've been slowly getting there, but mostly just maintaining. I want to get there.

My back-up will likely be straight calorie-counting - is that what LoseIt does? I want to look into that. Or MFP. I'd like to hear more about these from those with experience.

[hipmom]

Hi All! I met with a nutritionist for a few sessions in March and I'm counting calories and macronutrients. I track everything using LoseIt. I eat between 1,400 - 1,600 calories a day depending on my activity level that day. My back-up diet will be WW.

I've been reading my ARC, but Starting tomorrow I'll read them in a quiet room, with music that I enjoy playing at a low volume. I think that will help me to focus.

[SharkPhin]

Lose It is straight up calorie counting, but also gives a breakdown of carbs, protein, and fat for the day (that may be Premium only).

My primary diet choice will be calorie counting on Lose It. I'll have to think of a backup plan.

[ermabom]

I am going to continue with MFP at 1400 calories but really focus on eating clean and healthy at 3 meals and no snacks. I found the 2 heavier, one lighter meal worked well in India so I may play with redistributing calories.

Backup is the WW winning points via itrackbites.

[coffeequeen63]

My primary diet will be the old Points Plus from WW. My back up plan is calorie counting with Lose It.

[starlit5]

I'm going to stick to MFP. I've had good success when I stay with it. I'm not sure what my back-up will be.

[jonik]

Checking in tonight because I have an early and busy day tomorrow...

I count calories. That's about it. I eat healthy and clean (I am a dietitian). My life includes eating out (or without regard) about 3-4 times a week (which puts me 80% "on plan"). For those meals I don't manage the calories, just the portions and follow yet-to-come Beck principles. For me it has worked great; I enjoy what I want but in a limited amount. I weigh less than I ever have and been maintaining for a year. The "shake-up" in calories from day to day is keeping my metabolism up. It is similar to the "Wendy Plan" some of you WW's may be familiar with. I also eat 3 meals and rarely eat snacks. I have a set patten of calories I allot for each meal. I have a weekly menu plan but other than that I have not "tracked" what I eat for a long time. It has worked for me so I'll keep it going. Just need to tweak the portions a bit; go back to the basics so I don't "cheat" and eat more calories than I am counting.

[SharkPhin]

I lied. My primary plan is going to be the "classic" WW plan. Backup will be going back to Lose It for calorie counting.

[teach2learn]

I have been having some success tracking calories with My Fitness Pal, so I'm going to keep on keeping on with that.

I guess a backup would be figuring out a way to do Winning Points again (I lost over 100 pounds on that from 2003-2004)--perhaps I will check out iTrackbites.

[pickle]

Aug 2, 2016 21:55:01 GMT -5 SharkPhin said:

I lied. My primary plan is going to be the "classic" WW plan. Backup will be going back to Lose It for calorie counting.

Same here. 

[sparklez]

My plan is going to be "classic" WW on itrackbites. My backup will be Whole 30/Paleo. 

[Deleted]

WW and Lose It as a back up.     

[trixiemoonpie]

I'm going to count calories on MFP and I will research a back up plan and post it tomorrow.

[jenlovesdoggies]

My primary plan is counting calories on the LoseIt app. Daily calories are set at 1,387 (random!).

Backup plan is the Abundance Diet.

I was telling a friend earlier today about the Beck book, my last experience, and how helpful the message board was to me the last time I did it. It really got me motivated!

[meeshers]

I may have lied too. I just checked out LoseIt and that might actually work better for me at this point, so I may switch and have WW as my back-up instead. I'm going to have to give this some thought.

[michgirl80]

Low carb with MFP as back up

[lindabee]

I will probably use either Lose it or MFP, not sure which will be primary. Last time I did the Pink Book, my "diet plan" was journaling my food in a paper journal. I know enough about what I should eat and shouldn't eat. It worked for me. I pretty much ate what I wanted but stayed away from crap that I know doesn't work for me, pasta, breads, cookies, chips. I lost about 30 pounds but then stopped doing what was working and I gained about 8 back.

So, this long-winded post is saying I'm not sure what plan I'm going to use.

[3pigletboys]

I'm going with the old WW Core as my main plan. I'm thinking about MFP as my backup, but I'm a bit nervous about that, since I tried it before & spent most of my calories on carbs. I guess MFP would work if I paid attention to nutrients.

* to those who thought it was a good idea to use the ARC card as a bookmark* Apparently I started reading the Beck book before- my previous ARC card is stuck in day 3. So let's hope I get farther this time as part of a group!

[rhubarbarian]

My initial diet plan it to follow the diet outlined by Dr. David Ludwig in his book "Always Hungry?" I did this briefly last summer and forget why I quit. The science made sense to me and the recipes (maybe developed by his co-author/wife and the nutritionists he credits - it's hard to tell) were outstanding. Overall, I think it is primarily based on the Mediterranean diet.

If I fail at my first choice, I will move to a calorie counting app, such as LoseIt, with a goal of 1200 to 1300/calories per day.

[bamaramagirl]

I will use Loseit for calorie counting. I Will need to find a backup.  I have been doing the Whole 30, so I may slide into more paleo type eating, which I know is not a diet but that may be what I have to do. 

[TBELLE54]

I've had good luck tracking and counting calories on MFP.
My backup is WW Point+ on itrackbites.

[teddytiger]

Although I enter foods into MFP, my real plan will be based on the Lean Habits book, eat 3/4 meals, don't eat if I'm not hungry, eat til just full at meals and eat mostly whole foods. That has been working for me lately. If I start to slip I'll get stricter about calorie counting. I also find if I have a higher fat/protein diet with most carbs coming from veggies & a few slices of ezekial bread, whole grains & oatmeal, I feel fuller longer. Also, eating more veggies/less fruit works for me, strive for leafy green veggies in each meal. Avocados are a staple these days! Finally, I will not cut calories or foods unless I feel like I can do it for the rest of my life (that means dark chocolate after dinner and the occasional beer on weekends!)

Phyllis

[texasless91]

I need to check out the books some of you mentioned. They sound interesting. My #1 plan is to stick with MFP but to not eat my exercise and FitBit calorie adjustment. I think one of my major problems is that I think I need to eat every calorie allotted and I don't. Backup plan will be Dr. John Douillard's 3-Season Diet, which is based on Ayurvedic principles and probably should be #1.