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Post by gazelle18 on Aug 17, 2023 20:52:32 GMT -5
What’s on your mind — how to make kugel? This week’s Torah reading? Life goals? Prayer? We are all engaged in weight loss/weight maintenance journeys and we are all Jewish or at least interested in Judaism. We like to eat, we like to discuss. It is our goal here to provide each other support on our journeys, to share experiences, to call on our rich cultural heritage and texts, and to help each other grow spiritually.
Some of us take weekly turns starting the thread:
Frieda Holly Lee Louise Lynne Peachy
And for those of you that stop by to read this thread without posting — you are welcome to, but you are also welcome to chime in. Don’t be shy!
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Post by gazelle18 on Aug 17, 2023 21:02:08 GMT -5
Hi everyone, and Good Shabbos!
It is hard to believe that we are already now beginning the month of Elul, the period of time leading up to the High Holy Days. This is a time of introspection. What did we do right? Where did we miss the mark? How can we repent? How can we do better?
My wish for you, for all of us, is that we use this time for the sake of goodness. That we practice not only brutal honesty but also a measure of understanding and forgiveness for our all too human shortcomings.
Have a wonderful and restful Shabbat ! Xoxo
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Post by hollygail on Aug 18, 2023 6:59:46 GMT -5
First of all, if I have done or said, or refrained from doing or saying, anything in the last year that has caused any of you pain, please accept my apologies; I did not intend to cause pain. Second, may each and every one of you be written and sealed for a good and sweet year.
Having gotten that done, brutal honesty may not always be my best move. It has, in fact, gotten me into trouble in the (now pretty far back) past. I had to learn a bit of diplomacy to apply to my brutal honesty. I have not lost friends (or potential fiends) since learning a bit of said diplomacy... Once upon a time, a very very very long time ago (was I really ever in my 20s?) I dated a young man I was just getting to know and sorta kinda liked. But when he didn't call for a second date and I called him, he told me my bluntness put him off, although that wasn't the terminology he used. When a second man (a few years later) also objected to it (I don't remember exactly how he referred to it either), I realized that maybe I could find another way to say what I meant in such a way that people could hear what I meant without becoming provoked. Apparently I have learned enough that the only times I provoke anyone (since then) is when either I intend to or I don't look for words to use about what I feel very strongly about when the other person has feelings as strong as mine in opposition to mine.
I do agree wholeheartedly about practicing a measure of understanding and forgiveness for our all-too-human shortcomings.
Interesting week, Lynne. Thank you.
Gut shabbes, all / Shabbat shalom, chaveirot.
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Post by lee058 on Aug 18, 2023 9:20:16 GMT -5
Good morning everybody. Hope you are all well and SAFE! Re today's topic: How can it be so close to the HHD already? I've seen a number of Labor Day commercials on TV (a sure sign), and have bought a lot of things at Staples' back-to-school sales (another sure sign). gazelle18, I liked your points about being honest AND kind with ourselves about figuring out what kind of people we were this past year, and what we want to do the same or differently next year. Have a peaceful day, Lee
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Post by peachymom1 on Aug 18, 2023 13:58:29 GMT -5
Thank you for an interesting week, Lynne! I find that brutal honesty is best when only used with myself. Otherwise I'm way too likely to kid myself or rationalize. With others, I try to always be kind, so that when I have to say something unpleasant, I can hopefully add some sugar to the pot.
This morning I was sorely tempted to use some brutal honesty on a coworker who did something stupid, thoughtless and annoying that caused extra work for me. But I refrained, and took care of the problem without a word, so now he and his boss think I'm a rock star. Silence can truly be golden!
Everyone have a wonderful weekend, and I'll see some of you on Sunday. Shabbat shalom!
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Post by louise on Aug 18, 2023 17:17:01 GMT -5
My honesty about myself is all jumbled up of late - I don't think I have objectivity at this time. Have not really pulled out of that funk yet but while I am not getting things done at the pace I had hoped I am pulling the chains and have come a long way along in adding 2 aliyot for RH.
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